Porcupine Tree

Cela s'annonce grave de chez grave !

Echoes a écrit:

Du moment que ça ne ressemble pas à Flower power avec en fait 55 mn découpé en 18 plages sans grande cohésion.

100% d'accord !
En fait il bien plus facile de trouver des exemples foireux que des réussites, ce qui attise d'autant plus les attentes car on imagine mal Wilson se planter...

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Du moment que ça ne ressemble pas à Flower power avec en fait 55 mn découpé en 18 plages sans grande cohésion.

Tout comme Anesthetize que j'adore, mais qui n'a aucune cohésion dans le fond.

A propos du morceau de 55 minutes, voici ce que l'on apprend sur le forum anglais :

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"Occam's Razor 1:55
The Blind House 5:47
Great Expectations 1:26
Kneel and Disconnect 2:03
Drawing the Line 4:43
The Incident 5:20
Your Unpleasant Family 1:48
The Yellow Windows of the Evening Train 2:00
Time Flies 11:40
Degree Zero of Liberty 1:45
Octane Twisted 5:03
The Séance 2:39
Circle of Manias 2:18
I Drive the Hearse 6:41

All tracks by SW except Octane Twisted and Circle of Manias which are group compositions (besides the 4 other pieces on the separate ep).

Like I posted this AM, I truly do not know what to make of the new PT. It was almost too overwhelming to take in at one sitting, and for me, certainly NOT a CD/LP I could just sit down and immediately come away with a definitive impression of from the moment I heard it. In most cases, for me anyway, this is normally a very good thing, as many of my all time fave records were ones that I wasn't immediately struck by, but I am not sure if this is how it will play out with the new PT, and I did not get a promo copy so I'll have to sit it out like everyone else until the CD is released to get my next listen...

Of the tracks I remember specifically, Time Flies (which I mentioned is very Floydian, but still very much a PT sounding track) was probably the most immediately memorable. It's not uber proggy, but it does reference Dogs and Time liberally (and bits of Run Like Hell and Sheep as well), but still sounds very contemporary and cool !!!! Steven told me this piece was specifically inspired by his childhood/growing up etc.

The Blind House was pretty immediate as well, retro PT acoustic references, harmonies, with some very heavy sustained guitar histrionics as well.

Circle of Manias is the real powerhouse riff monster (along with Octane Twisted if memory serves me right) with tons of Meshuggah-like riffs clashing and crashing along in a torrent of angular time changes and odd meters. This has a similar vibe to Mother and Child Divided, but is much heavier and more angular and f**ked up... Oh, yeah, on this one, SW plays a new Baritone guitar that PRS made for him exclusively !

Drive the Hearse was actually a surprise, as I expected it to be dark and heavy to coincide with the lyrics and song title, but it's not. It's more "song oriented" with a memorable chorus and some really lovely acoustic moments backed with some spooky/eerie synth textures and a soaring solo fade out...

The other track that really got my attention was The Incident, which is, well crushingly funky (as in heavy electronica funk), this song is twisted and really will kick ass live I am betting... Lot's of weird synthy textures and if I had to point to any specific reference point it would be Sleep Together, but without all the strings. This track is more streamlined and stealthy...

Only one major disconnect for me that stood out from the listening session, and that was Drawing the Line. This might be the first PT song I can honestly say I immediately did NOT like much at all right away... Not digging the chorus at all and actually felt uncomfortable listening to it, which was a weird experience. It may grow on me , but somehow I doubt it... Please don't let my opinion cloud yours though when you finally get and opportunity to check it out !

The rest of the experience is all just too fuzzy at this point, sleep deprivation is clouding my memory and judgment so I'll stop there on my review of the individual and the whole...

Again, I think this is definitely a situation where it's going to take a few listens for me to fully wrap my head around and appreciate what is going on in this new release... I will say this though, it was my impression that this music was definitely inspired by and influenced by SW's experiences making Insurgentes. I can't put my finger on it, but I had a distinct feeling that Insurgentes had a profound effect on his writing for this new PT project. Perhaps it's just me, but we shall see....

A couple of tidbits extra.

In the video the opening sequence of guitar chords is from Occam's Razor which opens the album, and the synthy freak out bits Richard is playing is (I believe) from The Incident. Also, the acoustic bit SW's is playing is from Time Flies. The rest of the snippets of music are too short and detached from the rest of the recordings for me to place after just one sitting.

Oh one last juicy bit....

Another city/venue will be added in the coming days for the 9/26. There will NOT be another NYC show, however, there will be another East Coast show within a 4 hr drive of NYC. Won't say whether it's N or S of NY, but if you think real hard you should be able to narrow it down to one or two places...

Probably a lot more to tell, but just too burnt out to remember at present...

SoD "

Sur le forum de Geanne, on lit aussi ceci :

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"The song cycle consists of 14 tracks of varying lengths. The longest track is 11:40 in length, and the shortest is 1:26. The picture that someone posted a link to from a video IS the album cover.

I have the track listing and lengths, and lyrics, but I am not going to post the lyrics so DON'T ask ...I will try to post the track titles and times as I was cleared to do so by SW and management, however, I am f**king brain dead at the moment it will have to wait until tomorrow, oh wait, it IS tomorrow already !!!! Well, later ....

First impressions:

To be completely honest this is an album I am going to need several listens to fully establish what I think and feel about it... It was almost too much to take in. It's very immersive, but also a bit schizophrenic, you'll see....

However, tracks 1, 2, 6, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14 stood out the most on first listen...

Track 9 (ok one title) Time Flies is quite the homage to Pink Floyd (YES, GASP !!!!!) tis true, and purposeful according to SW... Trust me, you'll see. This one spoke to me most...

There will be a deluxe edition of the release, think the deluxe edition of Insurgentes.

Et enfin, la pochette devrait être :

Ouch...

j'ai vu sur le forum de Progressia que Robert Fripp ferait la première partie de Porcupine à l'Olympia...

Y en a qui devraient être contents ici

Joss a écrit:

j'ai vu sur le forum de Progressia que Robert Fripp ferait la première partie de Porcupine à l'Olympia...

Y en a qui devraient être contents ici

Ouch ! Rendez-vous à ne pas manquer ! Faut que j'y sois !

Grass Matt a écrit:

Ouch ! Rendez à ne pas manquer

Ce qui appartient à ne pas manquer ?

Joss a écrit:

j'ai vu sur le forum de Progressia que Robert Fripp ferait la première partie de Porcupine à l'Olympia...

Y en a qui devraient être contents ici

Oh de Dieu

Sur toute la tournee ou juste sur cette date? (ie: a Londres aussi?)

C'est génial, c'est au choix !!! Soit du Pop-Rock, soit du Hard Rock/Metal, je ne sais que choisir, merci pour tout RNAC !!!

Bon, je pense que je vais me faire l'Ancienne Belgique, au moins la bière sera pas chère

Je te le conseille aussi... les places sont bien moins chere (a l'olympia mieux vaut eviter les places au balcon )

No Quarter a écrit:

Je te le conseille ausso... les places sont bien moins cher (a l'olympia mieux vaut eviter les places au balcon )

31€ de mémoire et c'est à 1 grosse heure de chez moi

Je serai à l'Ancienne Belgique avec Polo.

LOLO a écrit:

Je serai à l'Ancienne Belgique avec Polo.

T'aurais pas un lien pour commander ma place ?

Question Taquet Time !!!

Les paroles d'un titre de FOTBP évoquent un groupe de rock, lequel ?

Grass Matt a écrit:

LOLO a écrit:

Je serai à l'Ancienne Belgique avec Polo.

T'aurais pas un lien pour commander ma place ?

https://tickets.abconcerts.be/ABConcerts/tickets/auto_choose_ga.asp?area=1

http://www.abconcerts.be/fr/concerts/p/detail/porcupine-tree-14-10-2009

normalement ça devrait fonctionner.

J'espère qu'on boira une bière démocratique ensemble...

LOLO a écrit:

J'espère qu'on boira une bière démocratique ensemble...

J'attends la confirmation ou pas de Biding My time, mais j'ai vraiment envie d'être de la partie, donc oui !

OK !

No Quarter a écrit:

Joss a écrit:

j'ai vu sur le forum de Progressia que Robert Fripp ferait la première partie de Porcupine à l'Olympia...

Y en a qui devraient être contents ici

Oh de Dieu

Sur toute la tournee ou juste sur cette date? (ie: a Londres aussi?)

Visiblement sur 4 dates seulement

Mon 12 Oct AMSTERDAM HEINEKEN HALL
Tue 13 Oct PARIS OLYMPIA THEATER
Wed 14 Oct BRUSSELS ANCIENNE BELGIQUE
Thu 15 Oct HANOVER CAPITOL

La même source que Joss plus haut, wait and see !

fuck, je fais le deplacement a paris expres sinon!

Je ne veux pas rater une demie heure de soundscapes chiants

No Quarter a écrit:

fuck, je fais le deplacement a paris expres sinon!

Ou à Bruxelles !!! Je viens te chercher à Lille Europe !!!

Ah oui encore mieux! ca ne te derangerait pas?

No Quarter a écrit:

Ah oui encore mieux! ca ne te derangerait pas?

Aucunement, l'eurostar te dépose à Lille Europe, y a plus qu'une heure de caisse jusqu'à Bruxelles !!!

PORCUPINE TREE en concert au Transbordeur à Villeurbanne, le jour de mon anniversaire :le 26/11/09 (55 ans, ouaa rien que d'écrire un chiffre pareil çà me fait peur on ne devrait jamais vieillir comme çà, à 40 ans on devrait dire stop ) ?? !! pour même pas 30 € ??? !!
J'ai bien l'impression que je vais me le faire, le seul problème c'est que c'est un jeudi et à 19h , faudrait que je me prenne une après-midi complète !!!

No Quarter a écrit:

Joss a écrit:

j'ai vu sur le forum de Progressia que Robert Fripp ferait la première partie de Porcupine à l'Olympia...

Y en a qui devraient être contents ici

Oh de Dieu

Sur toute la tournee ou juste sur cette date? (ie: a Londres aussi?)

de ce que j'ai lu, seulement 4 dates (et pas Londres)

Mon 12 Oct AMSTERDAM HEINEKIN HALL
Tue 13 Oct PARIS OLYMPIA THEATER
Wed 14 Oct BRUSSELS ANCIENNE BELGIQUE
Thu 15 Oct HANOVER CAPITOL